Wednesday, August 15, 2007

Happy 60th India Independence Day

From: TZML Admn
Date: Aug 14, 2007 10:02 PM
Subject: Happy 60th India Independence Day
To: TZML <TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com>

Dear friends,

on Wed, 15th August 2007 is India's 60th Independence Day.

Congratulations Hindustan! Bharat! India!

"Sare jaaha se aacha Hindustan hamara", as the old song goes.

Wishing all members and their family and friends the best for the 60th
India Independence Day.

May she remain pure, lustrous and shining till Eternity.

Enjoy the day with some beautiful old time melodies which will swell
up the patriot in you!

With the best wishes,
TZML Admins.

Monday, August 13, 2007

WARNING - A Zoroastrian priest offers prayers for non-Dokhma ceremonies and intermarriages and spurious 'Navjotes'

From: TZML Admins
Date: Aug 13, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: WARNING - A Zoroastrian priest offers prayers for non-Dokhma
ceremonies and intermarriages and spurious 'Navjotes'

WARNING - A Zoroastrian priest offers prayers for non-Dokhma
ceremonies and intermarriages and spurious 'naojotes'

Dear Zarathoshti humdins,

cc: Vada Dasturjis,
cc: Ervad Sahebs
cc: The Parsee Voice
cc: Zoroastrian Studies
cc: Parsee Pukar
cc: Dini-Awaz
cc: Parsee Arthonan Madressas
cc: TMYZ officials
cc: Prominent Zarathushtis

We thank our dedicated TZML member for informing us about the message
posted by a Framroze Sorabji Mirza.

Mr. Framroze Mirza, who calls himself a "Dasturji" is propagating and
practicing quite the opposite of what our religion teaches us. Prayers
for Zoroastrians opting for cremation or any other mode of disposal
and also advocating intermarriages and Navjotes of children of
intermarried couples is something that is not to be encouraged, but
condemned in no uncertain terms.

Our intention to air this message on TZML is to warn readers of this
errant priest and others like him who will not hesitate to sell their
souls and their religion to earn money and fame.

Now that these heretics have boldly started their advertising
campaign, the orthodox lobby has to be extra vigilant and steer clear
of such din dushmans and at the same time prevent other gullible
coreligionists from treading on the wrong path.

May Ahura Mazda grant them wisdom.

Sincerely,
TZML Admins
(please see below)
______________________________________________________

ZOROASTRIAN PRAYER SERVICES WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION
by Dasturji Framroze Sorabji Mirza

1) Four days and subsequent prayers for the departed, including for
those opting for electric cremation or any other mode of disposal, at
almost half of the cost incurred for ceremonies of Dokhmenashine at
Doongerwadi.
2)Marriages, including Intermarriages and Navjotes, including Navlotes
of children's of intermarried couples irrespective of mole/female
gender, will be carried out at a much less than the cost normally
charged:
Pra' will be held at parties' residence, halls or any other sites,
anywhere in and out of Bombay. Facility of Prayer Hall is available in
Bombay.

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Friday, August 10, 2007

Vada Dasturji Firoze Kotwal offers condolences to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and family

From: TZML Admins
Date: Aug 10, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Vada Dasturji Firoze Kotwal offers condolences to Vada
Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and family
To: TZML <TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com>


Baname Khuda!

Dear Zarathushti humdins,

our dear Vada Dasturji Firoze Kotwal joins us in expressing deep felt
sympathy to the members of Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla at the sad
demise of Manijeh aunty.

Thank you dear Dasturji Kotwal for taking time and penning a few lines
to Dasturji Unwalla's family and which we share with fellow TZML
members and other good behdins.

With our best wishes,

TZML Admins

On 8/6/07, Firoze Kotwal wrote:
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> Dear TZML members,
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> I and my family join with you to express our heartfelt condolences to Dasturji Saheb Nadirshah Unwalla and his dear family for the loss of a fine and devout member of their illustrious family. May Manijeh's pious soul rest in the shining abodes of Asha in which dwell the righteous souls of the departed worthies. May her reward be the Paradise, which is light and full of all spiritual comforts. May it be so as I bless.
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> Yours in His service,
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> Dasturji Firoze Kotwal
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> Dr. Firoze M. Kotwal,
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> B - 22, Cusrow Baug, 2nd Floor,
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> Shahid Bhagatsingh Road,
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> Mumbai 400 001.
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> From: "TZML Admins"
> To: TZML < TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com>
> CC: "Dasturji Nadirshah P. Unvala"
> Subject: Condolences to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and family
> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 23:45:26 +1200
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> CONDOLENCES TO VADA DASTURJI NADIRSHAH UNWALLA AND FAMILY
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> Dear fellow Zarathushtis
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> Let us all join and offer our sincere condolences to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and family on the sad loss of Mrs Manijeh Nadirshah Unwalla, who left for her Heavenly Abode on 1st August 2007 at Banglore.
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> We express our deep regrets to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and their children Adil, Yezdi, Khurshed and Aban.
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> May Mani aunty's soul rest in Garothman Behest and may Ahura Mazda give strength to all family members to bear this loss.
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> Those who knew Manijeh aunty and wish to write something about her, please do so and share with all of us. You may also cc to yezdinu@vsnl.com.
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> With deep regret and sympathies and condolences to Dasturji and his family,
>
> from all TZML members

Monday, August 6, 2007

Condolences to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and family

Date: Aug 5, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: Condolences to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and family


CONDOLENCES TO VADA DASTURJI NADIRSHAH UNWALLA AND FAMILY

Dear fellow Zarathushtis

Let us all join and offer our sincere condolences to Vada Dasturji
Nadirshah Unwalla and family on the sad loss of Mrs Manijeh Nadirshah
Unwalla, who left for her Heavenly Abode on 1st August 2007 at
Banglore.

We express our deep regrets to Vada Dasturji Nadirshah Unwalla and
their children Adil, Yezdi, Khurshed and Aban.

May Mani aunty's soul rest in Garothman Behest and may Ahura Mazda
give strength to all family members to bear this loss.

Those who knew Manijeh aunty and wish to write something about her,
please do so and share with all of us. You may also cc to
yezdinu@vsnl.com.

With deep regret and sympathies and condolences to Dasturji and his family,

from all TZML members

Thursday, August 2, 2007

Sarosh Yazad, Sarosh Yasht Hadokht, Sarosh Yasht Vadi

From: TZML Eductn & Information Committee <tzml.eductn@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 1, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: Sarosh Yazad, Sarosh Yasht Hadokht, Sarosh Yasht Vadi
To: TZML <TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com>

Sarosh roj

Dear Zarathushti humdins,

today is Sarosh roj.

Sarosh is a Yazad Who has a lot of significance in the Zarathoshti religion.

Sarosh is the only Yazad Who has 2 Yashts dedicated to Him:
* Sarosh Yasht Hadokht - which is on page 162 of the Englsih Khordeh Avesta
* Sarosh Yasht Vadi - which is on page 181 of the Englsih Khordeh Avesta

Sarosh Yasht Hadokht is to be prayed in the daylight gehs only, viz
Haavan, Rapithvan, Uziren.

Sarosh Yasht Vadi is to be prayed only in the Aiwishuthrem geh (after
sunset to midnight). Just like the Khorshed and Meher Nyaishes are
farazyat/obligatory prayers for the daytime, the Sarosh Yasht Vadi is
a farazyat bandagi to be prayed every night (circumstances
permitting).

The Sarosh-nu-Patru is also a very important prayer/ceremony which
takes place during the 4 day funeral ceremonies of a Zarathushti. This
prayer is done by the priests on behalf of the deceased's soul in the
Aiwishuthrem geh. When you next attend a funeral prayers, please take
special interest and ask the priests about it.

Sarosh Yazad guards not only the living man but also helps his soul
progress after death. It is Sarosh Yazad who comforts the soul at the
time of death and guides it to pray some Avesta Mathravani or other so
that its progress is unhindered.

Sarosh Yazad is Who controls the evil forces at night and makes the
legendary cock crow in the morning and thereby thickens the chain with
which evil Zohak is bound in a well by King Faredoon. This happens
every morning at dawn time. Zohak sucks the chain every night and
makes it thin, and just when he is about to break lose the cock crows
during dawn time, and the chain thickens and mankind is saved everyday
from disaster of epic proportions.

There is so much written and spoken about Sarosh Yazad, and we will
bring more of it at a later day.

Today we share some audio snippets on Sarosh Yazad for your listening pleasure.

It is a very beautiful, inspiring and educational snippet, keep it in
your collection and do not forget to listen to it on every Sarosh roj.

And remember Zarathushtis - Pray your Sarosh Yasht Vadi at night.

And please provide feedback regarding the audio clip - on clarity and
loudness factors. It does help.

With best wishes,

TZML Education and Information Committee

Wednesday, August 1, 2007

Fwd: Remembering late Mr. Roni K Khan - on his 5th Baj today



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: TZML Admn <tzmladmn@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 1, 2007 9:28 AM
Subject: Remembering late Mr. Roni K Khan - on his 5th Baj today
To: TZML <TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com>

 
Dear friends,    
 
[cc: Mrs. Sherena R Khan, Mr. Noshir H Dadrawalla, TMYZ officials, prominent Zarathushtis ]
 
Today on roj Sarosh, mah Asfandardmad YZ 1376 (1st Aug 2007) is the baj of late Mr. Roni K Khan, one of the founding members of TZML.
 
Mr. Roni K Khan passed away on roj Sarosh, mah Asfandarmad, YZ 1371 (2nd Aug 2002).
 
Mr. Khan was a sincere and devout orthodox gentleman, well versed in the scholarly study of the religion. He had himself penned several articles and books.
 
He firmly believed that intermarriage was a strict no-no in the Zarathushti religion, be it male or female.
 
He also took great pains in explaining the true meaning of conversion, which definitely does not imply converting a person born in one religion into another.
 
In the footnote we have summarised the sources of some of Roni Khan's writings.
 
His greatness was acknowledged by many Zoroastrians in their tribute to him, which we reproduce below.
 
On his 5th baj (death anniversary), we pay homage to his soul and express our sincere gratitude to him for guiding the community on important matters and sharing his wisdom and insights with members of the community.
 
Sincerely,
TZML Admins
(Apologies if we have missed reproducing any tributes here)
 
TRIBUTES TO LATE RONI K KHAN
 
(Apologies if we have missed any tributes here)
 
I just learnt that our beloved and most respected Roni Khan passed away this afternoonand his body is being brought to Mumbai for final rites.
 
May his soul rest in eternal peace.
 
I will personally miss you very very dearly Roni, my friend.
 
Rgds
 
- Adil J. Govadia (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
Friends,

This comes as a rude shock to all of us. But our dear RONI KHAN is no more.

I just got the news from Ervad Aspandiar Dadachanji.

To think only the other day he wrote Behram Pithavala's obit.

A GIANT among traditionals has moved to the great beyond.
 
- Noshir H. Dadrawalla (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
With Roni's sudden transition we are all in a state of shock and some of us can hardly think straight.

But as memories come rushing in I can remember that the Historic Vada Dasturjis Meeting was his brain child and he worked very hard behind the scenes often driving Karl and me to tears. He was a hard task master and a perfectionist. He would think of the smallest detail and when he took on something he would eat, drink and  breathe the subject.

The traditionals feel bereft. Please pray an ASHEM for the spiritual progress of his soul and let us stop all arguments on TZML for atleast 4 days in his honour.

- Noshir H. Dadrawalla (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
Dear members,
It is with a very heavy heart that I write to inform you all that our most respected and loved member is no more with us!
 
Roni Khan has departed from this Earth and he leaves behind his dear parents, wife and two sons.
 
He was especially a close friend of mine since many years, and I take this as  a personal loss.
 
The community has lost a true son, a true Rathestar! I cannot write more but pray and know that his immortal Soul will find Bliss and Peace in the Abode of Light, near Asho Zarathushtra and Ahura Mazda to whom Roni had dedicated his whole life!
 
Pervin.

- Mrs. Pervin J Mistry (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
A colossus loss to the Zoroastrian community, specially to the Trads Section.
 
Just this morning I was reading his articles on various subjects. Very sad and shocking. May Lord Ahura Mazda guide his soul speedily to his heavenly abode.
 
Deepest condolences and sympathies to the bereaved members of the family.
 
Burjor

 - Burjor Bharucha (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 

Roni Khan, our traditional stalwart and board member of TZML expired
today at Nasik Roz Sarosh Friday. Paidust likely tomorrow Saturday at
Mumbai.
 
- Marzban Giara (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)

Dear Friends,

It comes as more than a shock to hear this news. 

Having said a silent prayer for a very good man, I extend my families condolences to his family
and pray that they have the strength to bear his loss.

- Mehelly Bam (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)

 
It was very shocking to hear about the untimely death of our dear Roni.
I and my family send our deepest condolences to the parents, wife Shireena and sons Nadir and Darab, for their dear departed, RONI KHURSHEDHER KHAN.

May his soul rest in eternal peace. He expired on 2nd August 2002 in the afternoon.
 
The Paydast will be tomorrow, 3rd August 2002, in the morning at 7.45, at Albless Bungli, Bombay Doongerwadi, Kemp's Corner.
 
- Mehernosh Fitter (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
Tribute to Our Dear Brother Ronnie 
 
May Dadar Ahura Mazda give strength to our dear Ronnie's family, Wife Shirinbanu,Sons  Darab and Nader, and Mother and Father,  for their sorrow to bear, that we all share.
 

Dear Dadar Ahura Mazda,
I am so scared to even put my computer on, and  let  reality hit me in the face,
To find that it is not a dream, as even that I couldn't bear ,
For all you did for us, your family, with so much care.
Even though we haven't met, our souls have, on that I can bet,
You my dear sweet humble brother  with your parting touch have reached us so  deep inside, just yesterday with your mirth, as just to remember that, it chokes my throat like a girth.
The grief is too much to bear, as I write this with tears rolling down my face,
they just won't stop, so please excuse me for not thinking straight.
I will not be selfish and ask you why ! oh dear Dadar Ahura Mazda  why !did you shut the beacon of my life, without even letting me say a little hi!
You need him more than us, I am sure ! but his silence will be,.....so so difficult to endure.
 
He was such a great soul that is also for sure , As You my dear Lord oh! Great Ahura, chose to  send your closest 'Sarosh Yazad '  as you always do, for only the very pure !
God speed, dear sweet brother, your place is assured, Amin ! Amin ! Amin! you touched so many of our hearts , that even death cannot do us apart.
 
We salute you, oh great one, you shall certainly be missed by one and all.
 
This one I made just for you
 
"The Heavens shall Herald and Angels will amass to sprinkle flowers and make way for a great soul to Pass"
 
With deepest Condolences from all at TZML, &
 - Taronish, Meherab, Shahnaz and Hushang Vakil (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)

It is with a heavy heart that I write these lines. I could not believe the news when Karl phoned me and told me that my good friend was no more.
 
What an untimely departure, just when we need him most.
Maybe Ahura Mazda needs him there more than we need him here.
Maybe the evil one has managed to successfully get rid of him as he was a real threat to him.
Anyway let us all pray an Ashem Vohu and pray for the progress of his soul. May Ahura Mazda and Sarosh Yazad take good care of him.
 
And may his guiding light be upon us always.
 
I suggest we dedicate the next months TZML messages to his memory.
Rustom

- Mr. Rustom Chothia (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)

Our beloved Mr Roni K Khan is no more.


Expired in Nashik in a car accident on  3rd august 2002.

Regrets.

Noshir Chinoy

 
- Mr. Noshir Chinoy (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 

It is with deep sorrow I have learnt  today, about  the passing away of  Mr. Roni Khan !
 
Though I was not lucky enough to ever meet him in person, it was through his books and articles on TZML that I felt  I knew him intimately.
 
May Dadar Ahur Mazda keep his soul in Garothman Behest and may He give his family courage to bear this irreparable loss !
 
Indeed we on TZML have lost a great teacher and a guiding star on our Dine-Zarathosht !
 
Cawas Pardiwalla
New Zealand
 
- Cawas Pardiwalla (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
Dear Noshir
 
I am still in my office and have just read the email from SDAC informing us
of the sad passing away of our dear Roni Khan.
 
Roni was a great patriot of the Zoroastrian faith. By the power of his  erudition and his flair, and despite ill health, he kept the flame of  traditional Zoroastrianism burning brightly. At ZTFE we were very privileged to have him do a full-day seminar on his favourate topic of the HOLY ATASH. I can even now remember the large public meeting he
masterminded at Framji Institute in 2001 where you brought all the High Priests on one platform in the cause of Dokhmenashini and where you spoke so forcefully. His passing away is a huge loss to our community.
 
On behalf of the Trustees and the Managing Committee of the Zoroastrian Trust Funds of Europe, I request you to please extend our deepest condolences to the family of our dear Roni. May his soul always bless us, his beloved extended family, from Garothman Behesht.
 
- Dorab Mistry (relayed on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
Goodbye Roni
 
Death of a near and dear one is always very painful. If the person who has died is relatively young or dies suddenly the shock and anguish, especially for the parent, is even greater. Rightly did Thomas Mann say, "a man's dying is more the survivor's affair than his own".
 
To the aged parents of Roni Khan who has moved on to the Great Beyond, I first of all offer my heartfelt condolence. At the same time I may assure them that their son has not died. He has simply made a transition or to put it more simply, "moved on". You see, death is like the sunset. The sun never really sets. What appears to set in one part of the world, simply rises in another place. In like manner, the soul or spirit, which is immortal, simply leaves the physical world and enters the spiritual world.
 
It is important to realize that on planet earth, human beings are essentially "spiritual beings" having a physical experience. A human being is not a body that has a soul, but rather a soul that has a body. What dies is the physical body and not the spiritual soul.
 
We all come into this world with an "expiry date". In fact death is the only certainty in a human being's finite physical life. Some come into this world for a season and some for a reason. Often it is not important how long one has lived. What is important is how intensely one has lived. Roni was intensity personified.
 
 I draw considerable comfort and strength from the following verse:
 
If I should die and leave you here awhile,
Be not like others – sore undone, who keep
Long vigils by the silent dust and weep.
For my sake – turn to life and smile,
Nerving thy heart and trembling hand
To do something
To comfort weaker hearts than thine.
Complete those dear unfinished tasks of mine
And I perchance may therein comfort you.
 
One of physical life's inexorable tenet is, nothing lasts forever.  All good things come to an end. Physical life ends, sooner or later. And yet those who survive must find new meaning to life and make a new beginning.
 
The happy part of this sad story of parting in life is that God continues to remain with us. Because He loves us. The others (including parents, children, brothers, sisters and friends) He lends us to love.
 
Roni was a good friend of mine. But more important than that is the fact that he was a friend of our community and friend of our religion.
 
We will miss you Roni.
 
Noshir
 
- Noshir H. Dadrawalla (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 
  
                   BANAME KHOODA - TANDORASTI
 
My dearest brother and sisters,
 
I sit here in Toronto at 4.oo a.m. in mourning the untimely and sudden passing away of my dearest friend Rona, as I used to call him.  The e-mail that I sent him is I believe self-explanatory.  His passing away has left a huge vacumn in my life and in the life and soul of us Jarthostis.  His passing away is totally and utterly irreplaceable, and to think that only a few weeks ago, I pleaded with him to chair this TZT trust, and even then when he declined, I still lived in forlorn hope that he will one day take over the running of this Trust.  Pervin, mentioning his name somewhere, somehow, is the least that I can do, in the furtherance and the cherishing of his memory.  I am just too damn devastated to even think straight, and I am just totally lost for words.  The Zarathushtrian world has lost a true religious stalwart, and it is to this end that I wish as a Board member to make a humble suggestion, and this should in no way detract or take anything away from our brother Ervad Jalbhai Birdy.
 
We should dedicate 2 months of a 'footer message' in the cherished memory of our dearest brother Roni K. Khan, instead of the footer for Ervad Jalbhai Birdy.  I am sure Jalbhai you will understand and wholeheartedly agree with my suggestion.
 
May our Rona's soul lie in the highest abode and 'Garothman Behst'. amin amin amin
 
Filly K. Maravala
London
 
- Mr. Filly K. Maravala (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 

I am shocked to hear about the Sad Demise of our Dear Roni.
 
I still can't believe that Roni is NO MORE with us.
 
Roni was a TRUE TRADITIONAL ZARATHUSHTRI & A PERFECTIONIST.
 
Today morning only I was again reading the Foreword by Late
Behramsha Pithavala to Roni's book "IS ZARATHUSHTRIA RELIGION
UNIVERSAL". Little did I know that in the Afternoon when I
will surf the Internet, I will read "RONI KHAN IS NO MORE"
 
Roni's untimely demise is a huge loss to his family and to
the Zarathushtri Community.
 
Our Heartfelt Deepest Condolences to his bereaved family.
 
MAY HIS SOUL REST IN ETERNAL PEACE.
 
GAROTHMAN BEHEST HOJOJI APRA WAHLA RONI NE.
 
From,
 
- Neville S. Gandhi & Family. (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
Fellow Traditional Mazdayasni Zarathushtris,

This is a temporary victory of the evil one, in that death
has snatched away a great spiritual warrior of our faith -
our fellow Board member and spiritual guide Roni Khan.

Roni Khan was the chief inspiration and main moral
supporter of the Traditional Zoroastrianism Home Page
and the Mailing list, throughout the past decade.
His moral support has been immense.

Ever since his "Closing the Coffin of conversion"
appeared in the Jame, I have admired his tough
stance against the liberals and AGAINST INTER-MARRIAGE.
I sent those articles many times to the liberal alias
of Mehrdad, upsetting the liberals who could never
argue with Roni's arguments and scholarship.

Roni was also the chief architect of the SEVEN
PILLARS that binds the TZML together.

In an unprecedented step, and in his honour,
I am asking for 12 HOURS SILENCE ON THE
TZML. During this time, no messages will
be permitted.

The TZML will rise again after 12 hours
to uphold our religion and its SEVEN PILLARS
against the liberals and the outsiders, as Roni
Khan would have wanted.

Regards,

Porus.
 
- Porus H. Havewalla (on TZML, 3 Aug 2002)
 

Fellow Traditional Mazdayasni Zarathushtris,
 
The 12 hour message silence in honour of Roni Khan
has passed.
 
The TZML arises once again, to uphold our religion
and its SEVEN PILLARS against the liberals and
the outsiders, and STAND STRONG AGAINST THE
NON-ZOROASTRIAN EVILS OF CONVERSION
AND INTER-MARRIAGE, as Roni Khan would
have wanted.
 
Roni Khan has passed away, but his inspiration stays
with us, his vision of UNITY of all Traditional Zarathushtris.
Let us strive to unite ourselves, whether we are Kshnoomist,
Pundolite, or just believe in classical scriptures, whether
we belong to Khojeste's school or not, whether we believe
in mysticism or not, whether we believe in omnipotence or
not, whether we believe in rebirth or not. The Seven
Pillars are what unites us all:
 
- Porus H. Havewalla (on TZML, 4 Aug 2002)
 
Message from Ervad Birdy
------------------------

Thank you, Khurshed, Porus and all dear co-religionists who have
thought of bestowing this profound honor on me. 
 
I would be much happier if you would instead switch this honor to our friend, Roni
Khan instead, who was snatched away from us prematurely. 
 
Roni has done infinitely more for our community than I would ever hope to
achieve.  Thank you all once again.  With kind regards and a heavy
heart at the news of Roni's passing away.

Jal Birdy.

- Ervad Jal n Birdy (on TZML, 4 Aug 2002)
 

Friends:
 
I was away from my computer for a few days and have only just heard about the sad passing away of our dear friend Roni Khan.  It came as a great shock to me as only a few messages previously he had written a Memoriam about his friend and mentor Behramshah Pithawalla, whom he revered very much.
 
I had never met Roni personally but have always felt very close to him through his writings and personal interaction through cyberspace.  He was a great inspiration to me and I will miss his sagasious advice and positive influence greatly.  He was a true Parsi-Zarathushti and also the mainstay of this alias, steering it effectively through many a near crisis.
 
Although he was not in perfect health lately, I am grateful to Ahura Mazda that he did not suffer a long and debilitating illness.  May his soul progress quickly and find a place in Ahura Mazda's highest heaven from where we hope he will continue to guide and inspire us.
 
We will all miss you, Roni.
 
With the deepest sympathy to Roni's family,
 
Ervad Jal N. Birdy.
 
- Ervad Jal n Birdy (on TZML, 4 Aug 2002)
 
As we get the TOI late it was only  yesterday evening that  I discovered the
terrible news of Ronnie Khan's passing.
 
He was such an asset to us at TZML he will be sorely missed.  Our
condolences to his immediate family & the TZML family.
 
As a tribute to his memory, we must stay UNITED & not let any issue divide
us.  We must refrain from passing nasty remarks even against those we
disagree with.  We must remember that anger, hatred, etc. only pollute our
minds & cause us harm.

In sorrow,

- Maki Kapadia (on TZML, 4 Aug 2002)
 
 
A very shocking news indeed for all of us. May Ahura Mazda grant his family
the strength to bear this irreplacable loss and I on behalf of the emirates
parsees offer our heart felt condolences to his family.
 
May God bless his soul. I for sure will miss his writings on this alias
which I used to look so eagerly towards, I never knew the man but his
thoughts through his writings speaks for the man that was.
 
Mahrukh.
 
- Mahrukh Sutaria (on TZML, 4 Aug 2002)
 
Fellow Traditional Mazdayasni Zarathushtris:
 
I was always told not to shed our tears for the
departed ones ;but, feel happy that they have gone to
a better place.  It is very hard to do that for you Roni
Khan, as you have touched the heart of all of us.
 
Amin.
 
My sincere condolence to Roni Khan's family, his
parents and all close to him.
 
Asphandiar
 
- Aspi Maneckjee (on TZML, 4 Aug 2002)
 
Hello Noshir,
 
Please also convey my sincere condolences to the family of our dear Roni Khan.
 
I enjoyed communicating with him on the internet, and learned some useful things from his writings.
 
May Ahura Mazda bless his eternal soul in the spiritual world.
 
Regards,
 
- Maneck Bhujwala (on TZML, 5 Aug 2002)
Dear friends,
 
I was really shocked when Karl rang me up to convey to me the sudden and unexpected news of Roni's passing away.
 
I met him for the first time only during the Vada Dasturjis' historic meeting and later once more. But we used to share some private mails with me, when we used to answer each other's queries. I used to read his detailed exposes very carefully and with interest. It is a coincidence that I too used to share a special relationship with late Mr. Behram Pithawalla.
 
I pray to God that Roni's Soul progress continuously from whichever Markaz it may be with the guidance of Sarosh Yazad. I also pray that his aged parents, his dear wife and his children get the strength to withstand this sudden loss.
 
In sympathy,  Gushtasp Forbes. 
 
- Gushtasp Forbes (on TZML, 5 Aug 2002)
 
Dear Mehernosh,
I got the sad news about Roni Khan. sorry i was unable to come for the
Paydast, since i was in Udwada.
 
I personally never met him, but learned some useful things from his writings.
Roni's untimely demise is a huge loss to his family and to the Zarathushtri
Community. Please convey my sincere condolences to his family.
 
May Ahura Mazda bless his eternal soul in the spiritual world.
- Benaifer benaifer@bom4.vsnl.net.in   (on TZML, 5 Aug 2002)
 
On Roni's Charrum
 
Thank you & Aurevior Dear Roni, 
 
Gratitude is a memory of the mind
 
Remembrance is homage of heart
 
All the days that has passed behind
 
To warm our thoughts, 'ere we part
 
Even as I think of those by-gone days
 
Fulfilled in memory of your helpful ways.
 
Unless you had given me support and encouragement
 
Lesser would have been my understanding of true religious knowledge
 
And self-satisfying accomplishments!
 
No words can I summon to adequately express
 
Except to say a sincere   "THANK YOU".
 
And, with this…
 
               ...I bid you a simple adieu,
 
Till Providence brings us together once again!  
 
Pray that your immortal soul finds eternal Bliss and Peace in the Abode of Light.
 
- Adil J. Govadia (on TZML, 5 Aug 2002)
 
The Board Members, and all those who knew Roni Khan
 
I was able to read the TZML postings today, after a gap of 4 days, and although I do not know anybody on the list personally, I have come to know so many brothers and sisters by becoming a member of TZML. 
 
It is very shocking to learn of the sad demise of such a great stalwart of our Zarthoshti din.  My sincere condolences to all those who have known him personally, and to his dear family members. 
 
May Ahura Mazda give courage to his dear ones, to bear the loss.
 
He will surely be missed by all of us.
 
In sympathy,
 
Goolcher Navdar
Dubai, UAE
 
- Goolcher Navdar (on TZML, 6 Aug 2002)
Greetings in the name of Ahura Mazda.
Can say Noshir or someone who knows Roni's family please write a
condolence letter to the parents on behalf of the TZML because most
of us do not know the family.
 
Make mention of how grateful we are to Roni for the support,
education and guidance he has given TZML.
 
Also specially for the bringing of the 8 Vada Dasturjis
together (A feat which no one has done).
 
Thanks
Rustom.
 
- Mr. Rustom Chothia (on TZML, 6 Aug 2002)
 
My dear members,
 
I am back online but it pains me to be here since the vacuum of my dear board member and friend is hurting me.
 
BEYOND THE RAINBOW'S END
 
Beyond the rainbow's end, there lies
The land of love and light,
Where shadows never dim the skies,
For there ~~ there is no night.
 
And though the loss is hard to bear
Of loved one, or of friend,
We know that we shall find them there ~~
Beyond the rainbow's end. 
 

KATHERINE NELSON DAVIS
 
My friend is now resting peacefully in a land of comfort where no pain will be inflicted on him. Roni, May you rest in eternal peace in Ahura Mazda's abode.
 
In grief
 
Zenobia
 
- Zenobia Patel (on TZML, 6 Aug 2002)
 
A True Ratheshtar Passes Away
 
Death of a near and dear one is always very painful. If the person who has died is relatively young or dies suddenly, the shock and anguish is even greater. Rightly did Thomas Mann say, "a man's dying is more the survivor's affair than his own".
 
When noted scholar, author and orator Roni K. Khan passed away suddenly on Friday, August 2, 2002 (Roj Sarosh Mah Aspandarmad) the news sent a shock wave not only among community members in India but all over the world. Friends from the U.K. (including the President of the Zoroastrian Trust Funds of Europe), U.S.A. and Canada started sending condolence messages to me by e-mail to be forwarded to members of the Khan family.
 
I had known Roni for about a decade and both of us shared a common interest in religious research and writing. Both of us also shared a common interest in good food. I remember travelling with him a few years ago from Nasik to Mumbai and polishing off between the two of us four double omelets, at Igatpuri railway station. I also have happy memories of a dinner we both had at a restaurant in Colaba on the eve of a historic Parsi public meeting that was to take place in Mumbai. Both of us were exhausted after weeks of planning and the running around. We ate like there was no tomorrow and he generously picked up the bill on agreement that the next time we repeat the celebration it would be on my account. Sadly there was never a "next time".
 
Roni's scholarly articles in Jam-e-Jamshed and other publications were always a joy to read. When his book "Is the Zarathushtrian Religion Universal?" was published last year, he insisted that only I should review it in Jame, which ofcourse, I did with pleasure.
 
While researching and writing he would go into great detail, often burning midnight oil. And the finished product would always be a work of art. There are very few scholars in this world with the ability to combine depth with simplicity of expression. But Roni was such a wonderful wordsmith that he could blend the heavy pedantry of scholarship with the simplicity of words. He was doubtlessly a gifted man and he used his skills wisely, effectively and for the good of the community.
 
He was a true 'Ratheshtar' (soldier) and whether it was the controversial issue of 'conversion', 'intermarriages', 'dokhmenashini' or some pretender in the U.S.A. calling himself a 'Ratu', he would wield his pen to demolish the lie and restore the truth. And he always wrote with such grace and felicity of the pen. He could make his adversary see the lightening without feeling the bolt.
 
When DDD – AG was playing havoc with the religious sentiments of the Parsi community, it was Roni Khan who originally thought of organizing the historic All Vada Dasturjis Meeting at the Framji Cawasji Hall in Mumbai. He worked tirelessly for this historic meeting, often ringing me up past midnight and going into minute details. I would often feel stressed but I knew that this was a price one had to pay for working with a perfectionist. And what a meeting that was! But it couldn't possibly have been anything less under Roni's baton.
 
Roni held Late Behramshah Pithavala in great esteem and wrote a soulful obituary on the passing away of this simple and humble sage. Ironically Roni passed away exactly a year and one day after the passing away of his guru.
 
To the wife, two sons and aged parents of Roni Khan I offer my heartfelt condolence. At the same time I may assure them that Roni has not died. He has simply made a transition or to put it more simply, "moved on". Roni's spirit survives in the works of scholarship that he has left behind for posterity.
 
His family and close friends may perhaps draw comfort and strength from the following verse:
 
If I should die and leave you here awhile,
Be not like others – sore undone, who keep
Long vigils by the silent dust and weep.
For my sake – turn to life and smile,
Nerving thy heart and trembling hand
To do something
To comfort weaker hearts than thine.
Complete those dear unfinished tasks of mine
And I perchance may therein comfort you.
 
One of physical life's inexorable tenet is, nothing lasts forever.  All good things come to an end. Physical life ends, sooner or later. And yet those who survive must find new meaning to life and make a new beginning.
 
Roni was a good friend of mine. But more important than that is the fact that he was a true friend of our community and a great friend of our religion.
 
We will all miss you Roni. And I wonder if I will ever find the stomach to eat an omelet at Igatpuri railway station or biryani at that restaurant in Colaba.
 
- Noshir H. Dadrawalla (on TZML and elsewhere, 6 Aug 2002)
 
Roni's spirit lives and will always live in TZML- although none will fit in his shoes.
 
- Mr. Sam Billimoria (on TZML , 6 Aug 2002)
 
 
Belated Condolences to the family of the Late Mr. Roni Khan, a person whose
work I admired.
 
So well read, so well informed, here yesterday, and today he is gone !
 
May Almighty Ahura Mazda Grant the Highest Heaven to his Ruvan.
Amin !
 
I hope his children will take up where he left off, and carry on his mission.
 
Thank you.
 
Sincerely,
 
Pashmina

- Pashmina M Contractor (on TZML , 6 Aug 2002)
My husband and I truly regret the untimely demise of dear Mr Roni Khan.
 
We happened to meet him at one of the lectures we attended and had
appreciated the book he had just written. 
 
All he said that he is doing a duty towards our religion and is happiest
when he does this.
 
How wonderful. 
 
My heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family for his untimely demise
- Khursheed and Behram (on TZML , 6 Aug 2002)

My hearfelt condolences to the family and friends of Roni Khan.
 
I never meet Roni Khan personally but through his writings. 
He was a beautiful writer and captured the subtleties and
feelings of religious philosophy. He is also an inspiration and
role model to me and will be missed.  He brought pride to his
Zarathushtrianism and will revere the love and strength with
which he stood up for it. 
 
I cannot thank him enough for the enlightenment or the conviction
of his beliefs that inspire to even this day.  I give thanks to 
Kshnothra Ahura Mazda for blessing me with this Faith and the
men and women that have carried it through and may there be
more Roni Khan's in this world.
 
And yes Roni I agree one can only be righteous for the sake of righteousness.
 
Thank you and once again please accept my humble respect and condolences.
 
Sincerely,
 
Pakzaad
- Pakzaad N Mavalwalla (on TZML , 6 Aug 2002)
My Dearest Roni,
 
Where your caravan has rested,
 
Flowers I leave you on the grass.
 
Till we meet again,
 
Khurshed
 
- Khurshed Pastakia (on TZML , 6 Aug 2002)
 
 
RONI K KHAN'S WRITINGS
 
Please refer http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/ where you will find many of Roni Khan's writings stored and quoted.
 
One of the most informative and authoratitive works was "Is The Zarathushtrian Religion Universal ?"  (see review on http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/ronibk33.html)
 
Other articles of Roni that clearly showed the true meaning of conversion in the Zoroastrian religion can be found at:
 
His other well researched article was Pak Vendidad on Mixed Marriages ( see http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/roni33h.html )
 

"THE GATHIC RATU" - an expose of the outsider (mis)leader of the Zoroastrian liberals: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/ratu33.html  

 

THE HUSPARAM NASK'S PROHIBITION ON MIXED MARRIAGES: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/husparam.html  

 

THE PROBLEM OF INTERMARRIAGE SUMMARIZED: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/inter3.html  

 

PAK VENDIDAD ON MIXED MARRIAGES: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/inter4.html  

 

SAVE THE PARSI: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/save33.html  

 

TWO PERENNIAL QUESTIONS: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/qstns33.html  

 

BOOK REVIEW: 'Is The Zarathushtrian Religion Universal ?' by Roni K. Khan

 http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/ronibk33.html

 

Saga of a Great Soul: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/sagasl33.html

 

Did Asho Zarathushtra Convert?: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/didnot33.html

 

Roni K. Khan's LETTERS TO OUR YOUTH:

DOES THE "FREEDOM OF CHOICE" APPLY TO INTERMARRIAGE?: by Roni K. Khan

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/youth33a.html

 

DOES THE "FREEDOM OF CHOICE" APPLY TO CONVERSION?: by Roni K. Khan
http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/youth33b.html

 

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Fwd: IN MEMORIUM - of Behramshah D. Pithawalla

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tehemton B. Adenwalla <tba2004@gmail.com>
Date: Jul 31, 2007 4:08 AM
Subject: IN MEMORIUM - of Behramshah D. Pithawalla
To: TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com


Baname Khuda!


Dear friends,

the following is a tribute to Behramshah D. Pithawalla, which appeared
on TZML on his first baj in the year 2002.

Behramshahji passed away on 31 July 2001, which also happens to be his
birthday.

Sincerely,

Tehemton B. Adenwalla


----- Original Message -----
From: "G.B. Forbes" <gb.forbes@trent-tata.com >
To: <TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Traditional Zs] IN MEMORIUM


Yesterday, at his first Baj anniversary, which was well attended, late
Behramshah's family released a compilation of some of his thoughts
which were incorporated in the book, IN SEARCH OF DIVINE LIGHT and
this book was distributed free of cost to those who attended the
function. It was really a good gesture on their part and they have
also agreed to take out the second part of this book later on.

I have personnaly benifited a lot from the rich knowledge of
Behramshah with reference to Astrology and his notes on RAMAL will be
of great help to me when I take up this matter in detail for study. He
fondly used to tell me that 2002/03 would be the ripe time for the
rainidar or His Peshrav (forerunner) to come in our midst. BUT HE
ALWAYS USED TO TELL ME THAT WE (ORTHODOX GROUP) MUST FORGET OUR
DIFFERENCES AND BE WORTHY OF HIS ARRIVAL.

May his Soul progress from whatever realms it may be under the
protection of Sarosh Yazad and may it continue to guide us from time
to time.

Gustad.


-----Original Message-----
From: pervin mistry [mailto: pervinmistry@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:01 AM
To: TraditionalZarathushtris@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Traditional Zs] IN MEMORIUM


Dear Roni,

I just finished reading the Memorium you have so beautifully penned
for late Behramshah D. Pithavala. I am sure his immortal Soul will be
pleased that you display so much fidelity even after his transition.
Indeed, he was a great savant and sage, and how fortunate that you
knew him intimately!

I have read both the volumes of "In Search of Divine Light" and find
them very inspiring.

Sincerely hope that what you have quoted at the very end, comes true very soon.

Sincerely,
Pervin.