Friday, April 6, 2007

Behram roj - celebrated by visits to Iranshah (Udvada) and othe Atashbehrams

Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:13 PM
Subject: [Traditional Zs] Chaalo Udwada


Jashan and Community Lunch on Roj Behram Mah Adar Y.Z.1376, Sunday 6th May 2007,
in memory of Late Sheth Framroze Nariman Lakdawala.
Jashan Ceremony at 10 a.m. at Pak Iranshah Atashbehram.
All Mobed Sahebs of Udwada are hereby invited to attend and take part in the Jashan Ceremony
Lunch : All zarthosti humdins are cordially invited for Lunch between 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Venue : Next to Pundole Adarian, Udwada.
Menu : Non Veg: - Hyderabadi Chicken, Veg Pulav Dal, Chips, Achar, Cold drink, Icecream.
            Veg : Stew - Chapati, Veg Pulav Dal, Cold drink, Icecream.
Coupon : For Rs. 5.00 only (The proceeds will go to the Iranshah Kathi Fund).
Coupons available at : Surat - Maneck Turel, Modi Shehnshahi Atashbehram.
                                  Navsari - Viraf Patel, Dream Corner, Opp. S.T. Depot, Avan Baug, Navsari. Tel: 9825204682
                                  Valsad - Noshirbhai Zaroliwala, Three wells, Moti Parsiwad.
                                  Udwada - Firoze Dastoor Sukhad shop - Opp. Pak Iranshah Atashbehram
                                  Mumbai - Firoze Dastoor, Boyce Agyari, Tardeo.
                                  Ahmedabad - Zorastrian Ladies Industries, Khanpur. 
Please note that Lunch Coupons will be available upto 4th May 2007 only.
Bus Service available from Surat and Navsari.
For Bus bookings please contact :
Surat : From 25th April to 28th April - Homibhai Italia, Sayedpura, Parsiwad.
Navsari : From 25th April to 28th April - Viraf Patel, Dream Corner, Opp. S.T. Depot, Avan Baug, Navsari.
Notice given by Faridokht Adil Sethna and family

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Parsees and adoption - opinion by various Zoroastrians - Mr Dadrawala, Mr Khojeste Mistree, Mr Ranina etc

From: TZML Admn <>
Date: Apr 5, 2007 6:58 AM
Subject: Parsees and adoption - opinion by various Zoroastrians - Mr Dadrawala, Mr Khojeste Mistree, Mr Ranina etc

Dear fellow humdins,
[ To: TZML - Traditional Zarathushtrian Mailing List ]

[cc: Vada Dasturjis, Ervad Sahebs, Bombay Parsee Punchayat (BPP), Zoroastrian Studies, Religious Anjumans, Priestly Madrassas, Traditional Zoroastrian Home page moderators, TMYZ officials, prominent Zarathushtis, etc ]
once again we hear reports in the cosmopolitan press about whether adoption is allowed in the Parsee community.
The High Priests (Vada Dasturjis) have clearly said "No - It is not permitted".
Yet we hear about a Bangalore businessman attempting to get an adopted child through the back-door by doing its "naojote".
Such "naojotes" are not recognised by the community, and religiously speaking, it is not valid in Nature.
Here are some opinions of various Zoroastrians, which includes writers and scholars like Mr. Noshir Dadrawala and Mr Khojeste Mistree.
TZML Admins
encl.   1.  Parsis and Adoption - by Noshir H Dadrawala (this write-up was recently sent by the author to Jame Jamshed, Mumbai Samachar and Parsiana)          2.  Mr. Khojeste Mistree's views,          3.  Mr. Homi Ranina's views
Parsis and Adoption
By Noshir H. Dadrawala


This has reference to Manoj R. Nair's article "Adopted Girl Enters Parsi Fold, Priests Say Not Rite" (Mumbai Mirror – April 4, 2007).


There is no legal adoption among Parsis in India. The tradition of naming a "palak" for undertaking obsequies of a deceased cannot and should not be confused with adoption.


The "Guardians and Wards Act of 1890" does not give the adopted child "legal rights of a biological child," which are specifically spelt out in the "Hindu Adoption and Maintenance Act of 1956." However, the latter is not applicable to Parsis.


Sometime ago Justice Rebello had passed a judgment "in the matter of adoption by Christian couples". This cannot be made applicable to Parsis.


The question arises, is it illegal or irreligious for Parsi couples, especially child-less couples, to adopt children?


The position in law is quite clear. There is no legal adoption among Parsis and therefore if a couple decides to adopt a child, the latter would not enjoy automatic rights of inheritance etc., which a biological child born out of the couple's wedlock would have in the natural course enjoyed. The couple therefore would have to make wills and such testamentary documents to confer various rights of inheritance.


From a religious point of view, if a Parsi Zoroastrian couple, especially a childless couple, desires to adopt a child born of Parsi Zoroastrian parents, there should be no reason for discouragement. The couple may happily fill the void in their life and shower the child with love, affection and good upbringing. Testamentary and other documents may be executed to ensure the child's right of inheritance. The Navjote of such a child should also be performed at the proper time.


However, one would be treading into a rather grey area as far as 'Religious Rights' are concerned, if a child were adopted from a secular adoption center (where the biological parentage of the child can seldom be ascertained). The question would arise as to how such a child can be allowed to enter and worship at a consecrated fire temple (legally as by long custom and usage restricted to Parsi Zoroastrians only) or participate in a religious ceremony.


Merely performing the navjote ceremony of a child whose parentage is unknown cannot make the child a 'Parsi Zoroastrian'.


India being a secular state, on one hand, and having given constitutional rights of freedom of religion to individual citizens, as also to religious denominations on the other, no civil legislation can have such provisions as may disturb such religious freedom.


Who can be a member of a particular religious denomination or who can have a right to insist on being a member thereof and being entitled to the use of its religious institutions is determined by the personal law of that denomination which, again, is based on the precepts, beliefs and tenets of the religion.


Article 25(1) of the Constitution of India provides that all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practice and propagate religion. This sub-section in terms provides that it is subject to "public order, morality and health and to other provisions of this part". It is therefore subject to Article 26(b), which provides that every religious denomination or any section thereof shall have the right "to manage its own affairs in matters of religion".


Adoption is not recognized by the Parsi Zoroastrian community. This is an established fact and therefore, no judge of the High Court or Supreme Court can sit in judgment on it. To quote Justice Dinshaw Davar (ILR 33 Bom 122), "If this is the belief of the community and it is proved undoubtedly to be the belief of the Zoroastrian community - a secular Judge is bound to accept that belief - it is not for him to sit in judgment of that belief."


Also, there is no "law of the land" which can force a priest to perform the "navjote" of such adopted children whose parentage is unknown.


Navjotes of such 'adopted' children, whose parentage is unknown, may be good for the emotional satisfaction of the adoptive parents. However, it cannot confer any legal or religious rights to the child.


(end, see below for more)

Khojeste Mistree's views on the recent attempt to adopt into the Parsee fold
"Bangalore has a high priest who would not have given permission for the ceremony. That is the reason why they had to take priests from Mumbai. She certainly will not be able to enter the fire temple in Bangalore. So in this case, the navjote will not serve any purpose except to make the parents happy."
Mr Homi Ranina's views on the recent attempt to adopt into the Parsee fold
"It will not be accepted because the ceremony has to done by recognised priests. Adoption is a sensitive issue in the community because Parsi laws do not recognise adoption. Otherwise, people adopted by Parsi parents will  start demanding rights over houses in our colonies in Mumbai ."